Andre Clemens , Kortenaken : age 86 years and still a specialist on the speed

2015-2017 : 50 x 1

Excellent and dominating results :

Already for many years, André Clemens is the owner of a colony of supersonic pigeons.  Top racers from 100 till 400 km and for many years, they dominate the results. We find here many pigeons that won first prizes and even several victories on their prize list.

André Clemens is 86 years old and for some years now, his son Jos helps him out to take care of the pigeons. Nevertheless, André is still the man who’s responsible for the general care taking and Jos mainly takes the pigeons to the club, take back the clock to the club, etc....  Before, André participated as well on the short- as on the little middle distances….., a nice picture is probably the one together with Leo Hermans on the National podium KBDB; 3° National Ace Young birds, when “Bolt”  won 1st !!!

Though, the last years, he limited and only participated to the races in his own club in Geetbets; from 100 till maximum 350 km and … every year again, he’s part of the  Provincial Champions KBDB Flemish Brabant !!!!!

 

The origins :

Wim Moens x Herbots Brothers.

The colony already existed of very good pigeons, which we will call the old base.  These were mainly pigeons coming from Jules, pigeons that were responsible for very good results. But by contacts with Wim Moens from Aspelare, a true reinforcement arrived. These Moens pigeons were at the base of supers among which the famous 4475690-98, a true crack with 23 x 1 !!!!

And several Ace-pigeon titles like :

1 Ace Avé Regina’00

1 Ace VSOB (the larger circle)’00

1 Ace Yrl. France-races Club’99

1 Ace Old France-races Club’00

1 Ace Old France-races Club’01

.....the “Moensjes” are supersonic pigeons, ...

In 1996, André bought a coupon of the Herbots Brothers, Halle-Booienhoven, and this soon brought more success! He was very glad with this bird and he nowadays, he goes back every year to get something “good”.  He got top material of the strain of the “King” : 2 Nat. Ace MD KBDB, but also descendants of the strain of the famous Bourges-pair Grondelaers, grandchildren of Broere , Katoo, ..... next to these, also the strain of Picadilly, Magic Star..... With these kind of birds, you have to succeed because the descendants of National Ace-pigeon are the most ideal to continue with success. Soontjes-Grondelaers-Stoces..... a mix that already took care of super results. 

The cross breed Moens x Herbots took care of more top results!

 

Some examples of the last years,

Provincial and National podium places!!!!

2004 :

Provincial

2° General Prov Champion KBDB Flemish Brabant (after the Herbots Brothers)

1° Prov. Ace Heavy SD Young.

4° Prov. Ace Little MD Young.

5° Prov Ace Little SD Old + Yrl.

9° Prov Ace Little SD Young.

Local Geetbets

1° Gen. Champion

1° Ace Yrl Momignies-races  (2139235-03)

1° Ace Jonge Momignies-races (2117013-04)

1° Ace Yrl. France-races (2139266-03)

1° Ace Young. France-races (2117029-04)

1° Gen.Champion 1° + 2° signed

2005 :

Provincial

1° Gen Prov. Champion KBDB Flemish Brabant

2° Prov. Ace Heavy SD Young. (4079057-05)

2° Prov. Ace Little MD Old +Yrl. (2139243-03)

5° Prov. Ace Little MD Young. (2194141-05)

8° Prov. Ace Heavy SD Old + Yrl. (2139266-03)

12° Prov Ace Little SD Young. (2194117-05)

13° Prov Ace Little SD Old + Yrl. (2139235-03)

13° Prov. Ace All-Round  (2139281-03)

Local Geetbets

1° Gen. Champion

1° Ace Old Momignies-races (2139235-03)

1° Ace Old France-races (2139266-03)

1° Ace Young. France-races (4079057-05)

1° Gen.Champion 1° + 2° signed.

2006 :

Provincial

1° Gen Prov. Champion KBDB Flemish Brabant

4° Prov. Ace Heavy SD Young. (2203368-06)

6° Prov Ace Little SD Young.  (2203324-06)

7° Prov. Ace Heavy SD Old + Yrl. (2194179-05)

8° Prov. Ace Little MD Young. (2203327-06)

10° Prov. Ace All-Round  (2203322-06)

14° Prov Ace Little SD Old + Yrl. (2194128-05)

Local Geetbets

1° Gen. Champion

1° Ace Young. Belgium-races (2203324-06)

1° Ace Young. France-races (2203368-06)

2° Ace Old France-races (2117042-04)

2° Ace Yrl. France-races (2194179-05)

3° Ace Old Belgium-races (2117003-04)

1° Gen.Champion 1° + 2° signed

2007 :

Local Geetbets  1° Gen. Champion

1° Champ. Most prizes (877 pr.)

1° Champ. 1°&2° signed Old France-races

1° Champ. 1°&2° signed Yrl. France-races

1° Champ. 1°&2° signed Young. (Belgium and France-races)

1° Ace Young. Belgium-races (2203324-06)

1° Ace Young. France-races (2203368-06)

 

 

André knows what’s important – some tips

-       The widowers have to race every week – a pigeon is made to race.  That’s why we find here several cocks with a minimum of 10 till even 17 prizes per season. Top pigeons that are responsible for 7 till 10 prizes per 10 every year.

-       Work hard and take care of a perfect hygiene and create a good relationship of the fancier with his feathered friends.

-       Good pigeons are athletes; soft feathers and a strong body, fire in their eyes and will power. These are important aspects that André always looked at and which were part in his selection.

-       Good garden lofts are dry and don’t catch too much sun, his loft is a bit dark.  Hereby, the young birds remain longer in their feathers. Of course, on the other side, the loft needs to have a lot of oxygen and not too many birds in one compartment.

-       The fancier has to make sure that his pigeons feel well on the loft; when the fancier feels good, the birds will feel good to!

-       Winners are born out of a family of winners; breeding and winning can be done with ace-pigeons!

 

Some wonderful results!

2004 :  46 x 1

Momignies 396 p. : 1 (1/2)

Momignies 528 p. : 1, 2, 4, 15, 20, 25, 26, 27, 32, 35, 36,.... (25/38)

Momignies 921 p. : 1, 12, 23, 27, 32, 67, 70, 92, 96, ....(11/16)

Laon 168 p. : 1, 3, 5, 6, 7, 12, 16, 17, 21, ...(9/12)

Momignies 2696 p. : 1, 11, 15, 36, 58, 159, 204, 233, 266, ...(14/20)

Soissons 391 p. : 1, 7, 9, 14, 18, 32, 67, .... (11/20)

Soissons 343 p. : 1, 4, 5, 18, 20, 23, 26, 30, 41, .... (16/20)

Soissons 2064 p. : 1, 41, 43, 107, 129, 168, 173, ....(14/24)

2005 : 27 x 1

2006 :

Momignies  218 p. : 1, 3, 4, 9, 14, 15, 16, 22, ....(9/18)

Momignies 400 p. : 1, 16, 18, 48, .....(6/8)

Momignies 282 p. : 1, 2, 11, 12, 14, 30,.... (13/19)

Momignies 612 p. : 1, 2, 3, 25, 26, 38, 66, 73,    .....(20/51)

Soissons 1118 p. : 1, 3, 9, 10, 12, 16, 17, 20, 21, 22, 24, 25, 49, 56, 59, 77, ..... (24/25)

Soissons 336 p. : 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, 11, 14, 15, 18, 21, 26, 30, 37, 38, ....(26/35)

Toury 211 p. : 1, 5, 6, 8, 13, (5/10)

2007

Momignies : 2862 Young 1, 30, 32, 152, 154,   (16/31)

Momignies  : 819 Young 1, 3, 4, 8, 12, 18, 26, 52, 65, 70, …

Soissons : 201 Old 1, 2, 3, 22, 23, 27……(9/12)

Soissons : 222 Yrl. 1, 2, 3, 18, 29, 30, 37, … (7/9)

Momignies : 557 Young 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 9, 12, 19, 21, 23, 33, … (15/20)

Soissons : 744 Young 1, 10, 14, 39, 45, 58, 64, 65, 71, 75, 85, … (23/37)

Sometimes Andre started to get back on his loft and in 2009, he only raced his youngsters

2010

3 NAT Champ SD Young. KBDB !

5 NAT Ace SD Young. KBDB

2011 : 23 x 1

VSOB BRABANT (7 clubs together )
1st 1+2 Old, Yrl and Young Belgium
1st 1+2 Old and Yrl France
2nd 1+2 Young France
1st Best loft General 1+2
1st ace-pigeon Yrl Belgium 2140017/10
2nd  ace-pigeon Young Belgium 2025304/11
4th ace-pigeon Old France 2007258/09
3rd ace-pigeon Yrl France  2140018/10
8 NAT Champ SD KBDB Young.’11

Some toppers of 2011

2025304/11

always from Momignies

35/1234, 34/1721, 11/751, 63/1282, 1/382, 43/880, 10/839, 31/772.

2025390/11

Momignies 24/1234,

Soissons 10/1775, 201/2564, 54/907, 14/537, 77/2010, 16/218, 37/896

2140017/10

2010 op Momignies

2/722, 91/1422, 21/752, 17/1813, 70/1280, 7/1018, 1/1156, 11/1119, 5/519.

In 2011 from Momignies

6/276, 16/276, 31/460, 5/221, 2/270, 1/208, 3/133, 3/111, 2/92.  

2007258/2009 :  Won 7x a pure 1st prize. In 2010 from Soissons

In 2011 from Soissons 1/172, 3/646, 9/195, 1/242, 10/188, 2/462, 23/453, 31/364, 4/144, 1/105.

 In 2011 from Momignies 7/311,

Soissons 21/942, 6/1025, 10/204, 24/269, 20/588, 1/435, Nanteuil 1/1383, 22/319, 1/587,

2011 - 2° Gen. Champion KBDB Flemish Brabant

 

In conversation with André Clemens - 

(exchange experiences with a master in the sport …)

With which pigeons did you start and how many do you have now?

In the old days, everybody went to the market in Lier and I was lucky enough to buy me there a top breeder “De Witkop” and every year again, I visited that fancier. In 1998, the first pigeons of Wim Moens from Grimbergen arrived on my loft and this seemed to be a serious reinforcement against the Herbots-pigeons. Next to these, I also bought a coupon of Ivan and Maurice Vandersmissen with which I also succeeded very well.

At this moment, I have 20 breeding pairs, which all stay in boxes and this made it all much easier the last few years. Besides these, I also have a group of widowers and a group of hens.  With these, +- 50 pigeons, I have my pleasure every week again and I can compete to all races.  Every year, I breed 2 rounds of youngsters and that’s enough.

Do you breed youngsters out of your racers?

Winter here is the period for the racers to rest. After the season is finished, the pigeons get their rest and they don’t have to breed. The stay in an open aviary from October 1st till March 1st and then they’re ready to start the following season. Before, I sometimes breed a late youngster out of the racers but I prefer rest.

Do your pigeons arrive back on their loft at the beginning of March?

When the temperature becomes better, the pigeons can go outside and rather soon, this happens twice a day for about one hour and without a flag. When the birds are healthy, they like to train. At the end of March, they come together with their partner and they’re driven away 2 or 3 times at a distance of +- 10 km.  From that moment on, the races start; 3 x Momignies and those that score well on the Momignies-races, can continue to do Momignies.  The others move on to Soissons and again, those that score well at this distance remain on the Soissons-races and the others move on to the little middle distance.  The pigeons have to continue racing till they dropped their 4th or 5th pinion, then they’re stopped.

What’s important ?

To me, it’s important that their first love is kept in their head.  So as youngsters, I write down which pairs are together and if it’s possible, this partner remains the same as a yearling and even as an old bird. On the day of basketing, the birds can take a bath and those that dry well, have a good condition.

Their eyes are dropped before each basketing and also when they arrive back home!

After their arrival from the race, the pairs can stay together for about 30 minutes.  This is long enough and hereby, they hold on to their “fire” much longer. On the middle distance, they can stay together for about one hour but never longer. Those that don’t arrive in time can stay together for a very short period and not in their box, they have to learn to come back home as soon as possible.

The young birds

During the first months, the youngsters receive a moulting mixture; barley is the barometer. Afterwards, they get some extra diet mixture. If you feed them too rich, they get fat and lazy.  They are darkened and after the 3rd race from Momignies, they’re separated. During the season, they also get into the basket on Tuesday for Wednesday on a short race from Momignies.  The more they fly, the better.

 

2012

3 NAT Champ SD Young. KBDB

3 NAT Ace SD Young. KBDB.

TOP in 2012

3 NAT  Champion SD Young. KBDB

3 NAT Ace  SD Young. KBDB with the 631/12

1 Successor and Silver Pigeon "Golden Pigeon Competition"

1 Prov Champ Little SD Young. KBDB

1 Prov Champ Little MD Old KBDB

1 Prov Ace Little SD Young. KBDB with the 631/12

2 Prov Ace Little SD Young. KBDB with the 624/12

2 Prov Champ Little SD Old KBDB

2 Prov Ace  Little SD Old with the 017/10

3 Gen. Champ Prov. Flemish Brabant KBDB

3 Prov Champ Heavy SD Old KBDB

4 Prov. Champ Little SD Yrl. KBDB

Some toppers of that period

2140017-10, - 5 Nat Ace SD Young. KBDB’10 - 2 Prov Ace SD Old ‘12 !!!

Always from Momignies 1/1156 - 1/208 - 2/722 - 2/270 - 2/96 - 2/91 - 2/139 - 2/87 - 3/133 - 3/111 - 5/519 - 5/386 - 5/221 - 6/276 - 6/239 - 6/124 - 6/113 - 7/1018 - 7/187 - 7/102 - 9/184 - 10/121 - 11/199 - 11/1119 - 17/1813

2007258-09, 9x1 - (6 NAT Ace SD KBDB Young.’09)

Soissons - Nanteuil : 1/111 - 1/46 - 1/1383 - 1/435 - 1/587 - 1/242 - 1/172 - 1/169 - 1/105 - 2/462 - 2/322 - 2/828 - 3/353 - 3/646 - 4/176 - 5/842 - 5/740 - 9/1367 - 4/176 - 5/842 - 5/740 -

2011631-12, - 3 NAT Ace SD Young KBDB’12

Always from Momignies : 1/1481 - 1/424 - 2/410 -2/270 -3/625 - 3/537 - 3/385 - 3/298 - 8/563 - 10/509 ……

 

2017 – again a year of success !!!!!

2155021-14,

2017 : 20 x prize - Momignies

1 Prov Ace SD KBDB’17

Top 10 results

Momignies 115 km

1         Momignies’15         349 p

1         Momignies’17         201 p

1         Momignies’15         129 p

1         Momignies’17         77 p

2         Momignies’14         746 p

2         Momingies’15         123 p

2         Momignies’17         107 p

2         Momignies’15         101 p

2         Momignies’17         98 p

3         Momignies’14         3693 p

3         Momignies’17         105 p

4         Momignies’17         230 p

4         Momignies’15         100 p

4         Momignies’17         92 p

6         Momignies’15         108 p

7         Momignies’16         257 p

7         Momignies’15         104 p

7         Momignies’14         104 p

8         Momignies’17         230 p

8         Momignies’14         224 p

 

Sire : 2011631-12, - 3° Nat. Ace SD - 1 Ace Geetbets Belgium-races

Gr.S. : 2117022-04, - top breeder, father of 337-06 - 1x1 – father of 6°Prov Ace Allround KBDB – father of 3° Nat Ace KBDB - Son of the 946-98, J Lambrechts x old base Clerinx

Gr.D. : 2117058-04, - 2X1 - Extra breeding hen – daughter of the 222-03,  Moens x 243-03, 2° Crakc Pigeon Duivenkrant – old bas Moens

Dam : 2011625-12, Sister of 2° Ace - mother of the 021-14,

Gr.S. : 2014904-10, Vandyck Debeule – father of 2° Ace SD Young.’12 - Schroyens x Lefever

Gr.D. : 2140026-10, Daughter of brother 029 - 1 Prov Ace SD KBDB’04 x 442-06, old base Moens

 

2022306-15,

2 Prov Ace Heavy SD KBDB’17

Soissons 202 km  - Nanteuil 255 km

1         Soissons’15                       842 p

1         Momignies’15         255 p

1         Soissons’16                       232 p

1         Nanteuil’17              158 p

2         Soissons’16                       238 p

2         Soissons’17                        134 p

2         Soissons’16                       53 p

3         Nanteuil’16              476 p

3         Soissons’17                       208 p

3         Soissons’17                       208 p

3         Soissons’16                       173 p

4         Soissons’17                       238 p

5         Soissons’17                        600 p

5         Nanteuil’17              279 p

6         Soissons’16                       276 p

8         Momignies’16         462 p

9         Soissons’15                       1055 p

20       Soissons’15                       1207 p

29       Momignies’15         3148 p

 

Sire : 2014905-10, Vandyck Debeule – Top breeder

Gr.S. : 5020752-02, Son 68 x Schroyens

Gr.D. : 2343842-00, Blauw Lefever

Dam : 2140026-10, Daughter 004 - 1 PROV Ace Heavy SD KBDB - W Moens

Gr.S. : 2203385-06, Brother 029 - 1 Prov Ace Heavy SD KBDB’04 - Son of the  291-02, W Moens - x 436-98, - 6, 11, 23 MD - Extra racing hen

Gr.D. : 2117057-04, - 1x1 MD – Daughter of the 690, Ace Ave Regina

 

2070901-16,

5 Prov Ace Heavy SD KBDB Yrl’17

1         Soissons ‘17           161 p

3         Soissons’17                       595 p

5         Soissons’17                       485 p

5         Soissons’17                       174 p

7         Laon’17                    170 p

8         Soissons’17                       180 p

42       Soissons’17                       929 p

 

Local, SD-club Geetbets

1°  Champ.1+2° signed Old SD

1°  Champ. 1+2° signed Yrl. SD

1°  Champ. 1+2° signed General Championship SD

1° Ace Old Belgium, 6 best results (2155021-14)

2° Ace Yrl, 6 best results (2070905-16)

2° Ace Young., 10 best results (2080412-17)

1° Ace Old France-races, 7 best results (2022306-15)

1° Ace Yrl France-races, 7 best results (2070901-16)

3° Ace Young., France-races  8 best results (2080440-17)

 

VSOB ( 5 clubs together)

1+2 Belgium-races

2° Old - 3° Yrl

1+2 France-races

1° Old - 1° Yrl

1° Best Loft 1+2 France-races (210 members ! )

2° Best Loft 1 + 2 Belgium-races (205 members !)

2° General Champion (219 members)

Ace-pigeons

1° Ace Old France-races (2022306-15)

2° Ace Yrl France-races (2070901-16)

3° Ace Old Belgium-races (2155021-14)

 

Hilaire

 PUB CLEMENS EN